BBC Europe carried this story from Bavaria crediting Der Speigel Online. I searched Der Speigel Online and could not find the story, nevertheless, I'm inclined to believe that it is true. The BBC account, unfortunately, does not give specific reasons for removing the children. If it is for disciplining with a rod, which is what the Bible recommends, then we have a potentially major conflict between church and state. My fear is that these kinds of things tend to spread to other countries. Let's hope that there is more to this story than what we have.
German police have raided two communities in Bavaria belonging to a Christian sect and removed 40 children.
There was new evidence of ongoing child abuse by members of the Twelve Tribes sect, officials told Germany's Spiegel Online website.
Witnesses of the dawn raids said there was no resistance from the group members, who denied the allegations, Augsburger Allgemeine reports.
The US-founded sect says it believes in spanking children if disobedient.
But it said a "small reed-like rod" was used intended only to inflict "pain and not damage" and was not abusive.
"Desiring to be good parents, we do not hit our children in anger, nor with our hand or fist," the group, which has communities in 10 countries around the world, says on its website about raising children.
"We know that some people consider this aspect of our life controversial, but we have seen from experience that discipline keeps a child from becoming mean-spirited and disrespectful of authority."
School objections
More than 100 officers were involved in the operation to remove the children, who have been placed temporarily with foster families.
They were taken from two locations run by the group - 28 from a monastery and farm of Klosterzimmern near Deiningen town and 12 from a communal house in the village of Wornitz.
Twelve Tribes, which follows teachings in the Old and New Testaments as God's direct word, has come to the attention of the German authorities before, especially for its refusal to send its children to public schools.
Recently local authorities withdrew an education licence from a Twelve Tribes school at Klosterzimmern because of a lack of suitable teachers.
"The action today has nothing to do with the subject of compulsory education," a spokesman for the Bavarian state education ministry told Augsburger Allgemeine.
German police have raided two communities in Bavaria belonging to a Christian sect and removed 40 children.
There was new evidence of ongoing child abuse by members of the Twelve Tribes sect, officials told Germany's Spiegel Online website.
Witnesses of the dawn raids said there was no resistance from the group members, who denied the allegations, Augsburger Allgemeine reports.
The US-founded sect says it believes in spanking children if disobedient.
But it said a "small reed-like rod" was used intended only to inflict "pain and not damage" and was not abusive.
"Desiring to be good parents, we do not hit our children in anger, nor with our hand or fist," the group, which has communities in 10 countries around the world, says on its website about raising children.
"We know that some people consider this aspect of our life controversial, but we have seen from experience that discipline keeps a child from becoming mean-spirited and disrespectful of authority."
School objections
More than 100 officers were involved in the operation to remove the children, who have been placed temporarily with foster families.
They were taken from two locations run by the group - 28 from a monastery and farm of Klosterzimmern near Deiningen town and 12 from a communal house in the village of Wornitz.
Twelve Tribes, which follows teachings in the Old and New Testaments as God's direct word, has come to the attention of the German authorities before, especially for its refusal to send its children to public schools.
Recently local authorities withdrew an education licence from a Twelve Tribes school at Klosterzimmern because of a lack of suitable teachers.
"The action today has nothing to do with the subject of compulsory education," a spokesman for the Bavarian state education ministry told Augsburger Allgemeine.
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